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Helmi, I'd be very careful, Helm, about assuming that because of disability, someone cannot do something. It isn't that you have to ignore the obvious (such as "a student in a wheelchair cannot run up stairs and that is something a paramedic must be able to do), but don't assume that the typical way things are done are the only way things are done. That same student in a wheelchair who cannot function as a paramedic may be able to function very effectively as a physician -- because not all physicians are involved in life-or-death actions. We all have a… >>>

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Nick, I think that is true, Nick. The first questions is always, "Am I treating students with disabilities differently BECAUSE of their disability?" There is nothing wrong with being up front and honest with students about the problems you foresee in their future so long as you would do the same for any student who PERFORMED the same way (rather than for a student who you ANTICIPATED would have problems -- because of disability). Dr. Jane Jarrow
Helmi, Nicely said! We never know how students -- any students -- will use the knowledge they gain in an educational setting. We must continue to focus on ability, not DISability, and to help students tap their potential. Dr. Jane Jarrow
Helmi, You have just voiced the very explanation that has been given by others as to WHY we need Section 504 and the ADA. People with disabilities deserve the opportunity to achieve without the interference of others prejudices or expectations. Sometimes they will make it and other times not -- just like the rest of us! The laws assure that they get the opportunity to try. Dr. Jane Jarrow
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Randy, I'm not big on idle flattery. I wouldn't have said it if I didn't mean it. You've learned your lesson well, and taken it to heart. It's a pleasure to "meet" you! Dr. Jane Jarrow
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Randy, As I read through your posts, I am wishing that this was face-to-face instead of online. I'd like to shake your hand! You have an amazingly grounded and positive view of the potential of students with disabilities. The students you come in contact with (and the ones who will meet you in the future) are tremendously lucky to have found their way to someone so supportive. Kudos! Dr. Jane Jarrow
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Randy, Wow! That answer could have been written by someone who had been in the field of disability services for 20 years. You are EXACTLY on target. I am most impressed! Dr. Jane Jarrow
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Randy, You are right. Manifestations of ADHD can often be interpreted as inappropriate behavior, and a lot of individuals find themselves in trouble because of those behavioral issues, rather than because of their job skills. There was a classic article written years ago called, "Keeping Your Job At the Water Cooler," that talked about how the ability (or INability) to fit in to the social setting of the job place was the downfall of many individuals with LD and ADHD. I think your idea of having the Career Services folks address these issues straight up with students is a wise… >>>

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Deborah, You walk a very thin line here. Before you make assumptions about a student's ability to be hired, you need to consider the possibility of reasonable accommodation. There are also some sticky issues surround the development of technical standards. While reference to lifting 50 lbs may be the traditional way to state this requirement, it doesn't necessarily mean it is logical. Does that mean if the student lifts something that weighs 53 pounds, and drops it, it will be considered OK? I recognize that proprietary institutions that are evaluated (by accrediting bodies) on their placement rates face special challenges… >>>

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Nick, Yep... you are almost there. WHY the student needs extended time on a standardized test will differ with the type of disability. For a student who is LD or ADHD, they may need to understand, gather thoughts, explain (as you suggested). For a student who is blind, the extra time may be needed just to ACCESS the test (using a screen reader, dictating and checking answers through assistive technology, and so on). But you are right -- on a paper-and-pencil test, it would be extremely rare that extended time could not be made available as a reasonable accommodation. Extending… >>>

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