Berrie,
I think you are right, you have to make sure you have the specific instructions and tutorials that will help all students.
Dr. Kelly Wilkinson
Sherry,
You are correct they do want to learn for the most part. It is the few that cause the problems. (isn't that the way it always happens)
Dr. Kelly Wilkinson
Cyndy,
I love your post! You have a real handle on the different issues that peg different students.
Dr. Kelly Wilkinson
June,
You make such a great point! I too am "more mature" and I am a technology early adopter! We must watch the stereotyping.
Dr. Kelly Wilkinson
Dr. Michael,
Agreed, we just have to provide them with guidance. I say again, let's not allow this to be a crutch; it is a learning opportunity for life long learning.
Dr. Kelly Wilkinson
Merle,
I agree we have to provide them with guidance. We do have to make sure that they don't use this as a crutch. For example, I had a nontraditional student who did not want to interact with me or the class within the LMS; he wanted me to call him or vice versa on the phone. I did not allow him to do that as this did not teach him to use the technology and he was not part of class. (he did survive the course and did quite well).
Dr. Kelly Wilkinson
June,
You and I are on the same page! I call the way students write as "puking on paper" and just like puke if you don't clean it up it stinks! I have given extra points in my online course for pointing out my errors particularly in the discussion boards.
Dr. Kelly Wilkinson
June,
Well, I don't think you are in the wrong about that! I think we still have to have "rules" for communication. Even those students that you "2" as a word will complain if someone types (keys) in all caps.
Dr. Kelly Wilkinson
I like the distinction you make between, "chronological age" and "technological age."
Many older folk, such as I, were educated in systems that valued correctness in spelling, grammar and such.
Even today I cannot make my fingers type "yu" instead of "you" in a text message, much less in a Discussion Board entry.
Apparently I am stuck in the "chronological fallacy" (which should exist as a fallacy if it doesn't already) and not changing along with changes in the language over time! Thank you!
The students seem to be making an interesting and artificial distinction between a spelling error and a typo.
In my world, the error would be not having edited carefully to find and to correct such misspellings/typos as well as not using Grammar Check and Spell Check as tools to help with that editing process.
I myself frequently type "compluter" instead of "computer." As I look at it now, the incorrect spelling is neatly underlined in Spell Check Red and I guarantee that I know there is no "l" in "computer," but the misspelling still makes my work look unprofessional and silly, regardless of origin of the error.
A quick look over my response identifies the error and makes the question of origin moot! Thanks!
I would say that that older students could be very intimated by the technology because not only is the subject content of the course new to them, but now they are having to navigate through the technology..
I have had them say that to me.
Therefore, at times, we need to guide them along so that they are able to build confidence and go forward with ideas.
I would say that generally younger students are more willing to try out new technology; it is something they know. However, older students have the advantage of years of perspective and a knowledge of how they actually can learn new things. Yes, for some older students, the online experience is frightening; they don't adjust well.
This can be a tricky situation because stereotyping people based on age can be very tempting. I myself am an older person and know much more about computers and m much more comfortable with them now than ten years ago.
In fact, some people may indulge in self-stereotyping, thinking, for example, "People won;t expect too much technological expertise our of me because I am older."
In a way, this is equivalent to expecting me to be most familiar with written poetry because I have lived closer in time to written poetry than to other modes; however, the reality is that I have spent several years working with spoken-word performances in poetry slams and such and am very familiar with those kinds of contemporary modes.
I tend to agree with you. Older students go through the process of understanding how something functions. I believe that it has to do the "I have taken tones of computer classes and they all work the same". The problem with this that they submit errors in the learning process that could be avoided by simply taking to the time to follow the specific insturctions instead of doing what you know.
Yes,
I have found they want to learn technology to help them learn and interact with others and learn with others younger then themselves.
I have found the senior students to be rewarding interesting, and I learn as much from these students as they do with the material they are reaching and mastering. The younger students have so many variables which interfer with their every day lives. They (the thirtys) have the responsibilites of families, husbands, jobs, and they have far too many distractions which makes the the overall process "hurried" and poorer quaility submitted.
I do participate with the live office lab hours and I encourage attendance, but find the 45 and older folks attending. They make a committment, and they are intereseted enough to make the attempt. If they can not do something they are steadily searching to make the effort.
Sandra,
Great points! I agree that a technology can expand the experience. It is frustrating at times with both types of students! Why can we combine the two :)
Dr. Kelly Wilkinson
I believe that technology can be challenging to the older student; but can be a tool to expand the "older" adults mind. It can help the senior gain confidence in the online environment through small successes. So, yes they are often very interested in this "new" concept.
I instruct a virtual lab. Going through the simulation for the first time can be a challenge. Once the skill is acquired, most students have few difficulties. I believe that an older students "hangs" on every word and actually reads the feedback (looking to develop and improve. The younger student often looks at the final grade, rather than the feedback (and struggles more to actually make improvements).
Beverly,
Isn't that wonderful. That is what learning should be ( and not just about technology).
Dr. Kelly Wilkinson
There are times when I have my younger students showing the more mature students and vice versa. It depends on what we are talking about as to who may lead the discussion.
