Thanks. Really very helpful. Susan
HI Amy and Hildie
Interesting dilemma. Maybe the poorly performing students need to take extra "placement" training in order to quaify for job leads. Offer remediation on how to develop rapport with prospective employers.
Best wishes
Susan
I am starting at a new college and am not sure of what our policies here will be but this is an example of what my agreement was at my previous placement department. I used copy/paste so please excuse spacing.
I _____________________________________ have read and understand the rules of the placement department.
While the campus does not guarantee placement following graduation, reasonable effort will be made to assist the student in securing suitable employment. ___________College's Career Service Associates stand ready to address the following steps in the preparation for the job search:
1. Reviewing a graduates resume
2. Assisting in interviewing techniques
3. Counseling for Career choice
4. Marketing the graduates skills
5. Generating job leads
The student may loose Placement services by doing one are all of the following:
1. Not showing to numerous job leads with out contacting the employer.
2. Failure of a drug screening.
3. insubordination
4. Not behaving in a professional manner.
5. Getting fired from numerous jobs for tardiness, drug screening, absenteeism, and insubordination.
_____________________________ _______________________
Student Signature Date
Hi Hildie
A placement agreement sounds great. Can you make it available to all of us.
Thanks
Susan
That is an excellent idea!
I have a placement agreement that my students sign that basically tell them they can loose placement priveledges if they do not show for three or more interviews, fail a drug screening, or are dismissed for unprofessional behavior. You will always have a couple but for the most part if you start working with your students before graduation they will know these things and it will not be as big of a problem. Also if you work with them prior to graduation you know which students can be set up at certain places. There are all kinds of establishments that can fit most of your personalities.
I totally see where you're coming from! Where do you find that happy medium with helping everyone equally and yet maintaining the good name your school has with the community? I have the same problem with a couple of students who no matter where I send them for an interview they insult someone or in some other way do not behave professionally. It's a poor reflection on the school, and you're right - the employers tend to stop asking for referrals.
I don't write them off--I continue to call them on a dailey basis and motivate them to come in I just do not set up as many leads for them because they do not always follow through and it gives me more leads for the people that are actively looking. If I have a place of business that has too many no shows for appointments they will not contact me for more positions.
Hi Hildie
It's always natural to work with our best students. But the ones who don't pick up the leads are probably those who need the most help. The satisfaction takes longer. But people know when you have given up on them or are going the extra mile.
Best wishes
Susan
A lot of times this is how I weed my students out--If they continue not to pick up leads I do not work as hard for them--Gives me more time with students that are actively looking. Yes they go from me to employers--this allows me to see how they are dressing before going out for interviews. When they are with me I will call the lead and set an appoitment if possible.
Hi
To discover roadblocks or how effective any strategy is suggest you plan ongoing outcomes assessments. You can use surveys, meetings, or anything to get information about how something is working.
Best wishes
Susan
Hi Hildie
Great way to build responsibility and keep students aware that they have to take control over their job search activities.
Best wishes
Susan
If they don't come pick it up and you follow up with a phone call, what are you finding are their reasons for not coming out? Do you encourage them to go straight from your office to the company that posted? I'm liking this idea, but trying to figure out what the roadblocks may be.
I like to do a job posting that has to be picked up in my office--I have it ready every Tuesday and the students know that I will be expecting to see them by Tuesday evening. If they do not pick up the new posting I call and see what is going on. I do not like to mail, fax or email the posting. I want students to come dressed for interviews and start looking for work. I find that when I do that the students do not get lazy and they usually start working within weeks of pickling up a few job leads.
HI Krista
Interesting situations. Are you talking about managing how a student will spend time with employment skills training and placement activities amidst completing courses? It's a challenge. Sometimes placement staff simply have to take time to visit the classroom.
Sounds like you have a great job board. Why not send it to students as well so they see what kinds of jobs will be available to them. Can act as a retention tool.
Best wishes
Susan
We currently offer career services and the biggest thing I see we need improvement in is our time management and resources. We are currently looking into reformating our student and career services departments. I like the suggestion in another post about having students meeting with career servcies after a certain point in their education. I would like any suggestions on how to communicate new job opportunities with current students and graduates. We currently have a job board that is updated daily and mass emails that are sent out to graduates.
Hi Amy
Good points. You have to advertise your department within your school. And keep contacts going with your community too.
Best wishes
Susan
I think we can improve our placement services by partnering more with admissions from the very beginning in trying to get students excited about employment and encouraging administration to realize that the placement department is a very important part of the whole training process.
HI Kelli
Great idea to have a library filled with employment skills, job search, and life skills resources. We like the resrouces found in JIST publications - www.jist.com. Also in Career Communications, Inc. www.careerbookstore.com
You can also find lots of employment skills and job search information on the Internet. Suggest you build a list of urls that relate to employment in your fields of study.
Best wishes
Susan
