Jean, I understand. My students need 1000 hours of clinical in addition to the 1700 hours of academics. Don't want to beat a dead horse, but I can tell you that in addition to the competencies and proficiency testing we do in clinical, and the practical experience working patients, I'll still take students to visit Central Supply, admitting office, biomedical. Some students have commented they really appreciated getting a more comprehensive view of "behind the scenes" goings on. I know these students would normally not get this exposure, but I try to make their experiences as meaningful as possible. Barry Westling