Discipline within the classroom setting
I thought that this course outlined and gave many great examples of disciplining students within the classroom setting.
In the educational setting where I work this is an issue that is ongoing. Students not being respectful of the instructors, students sleeping, and constant chatter amongst the students during a lecture. Another problem that we get a lot of is students using their cell phones during lecture time.
Education for adults has proven to be a challenge to the instructors in the room. Many of my instructors have a feeling that the students bully them, most of this happening when reviewing tests with them.
Kae, what are some techniques you can use to ease your students into the real and harsh world of the live workplace? Perhaps you could introduce role play into your classroom. This would allow you to play the role of a dictator boss and this would help students better understand the real world without feeling you are isolating them out from the crowd. Use different students in different roles so everyone can experience being the hero and being the one who gets critical feedback.
James Jackson
I try to emphasize that my guidelines and expectations are those that will be expected in the workplace. Careful attention to discussion of patient care are strictly forbidden and severly punishable. Many times the students do not understand this concept and feel that I am picking on them. If management fails to back the instructor you may as well stop right there and there because your attempts to present good patient care as well as a professional environment are not appreciated or respected. Sad
Linda - Totally agree with the issues instructors have to deal with each day. Positive enforcement and consistency would resolve most of the issues. One instructor a buddy, the next a controller doesnt effectively establish protocols and guidelines. Everyone must be actively involved to get results needed.
Celine, I highly recommend you do some research on active learning and classroom activities that keep your students focused on the materials versus their cell phones. You could even incorporate an exercise or two where they can use their phones to assist with research or to answer classroom questions. Helping them understand when to use their phones for work and when to keep them out of sight could provide them better insight into the working world. In many professions today the use of smart phones is part of the workplace but using them for personal purposes can lead to removal from the job. The sooner they learn the difference the better.
James Jackson
I have found that discipline is as much a teaching tool than anything else in the classroom. Students must learn that there are rules they must follow. This is true in the classroom as well as the workplace. Thee are deadlines they must meet, and also respect they must show to others. Todays students display a profound lack of "situational awareness". They don't seem tounderstand that they can not just say and do what they want when they want to. If we are to prepare them for the realities of the workplace we must teach them the meaning of "situational awareness. This can only hapen through the use of effective discipinary techniques.
I state my expectations from day one. Especially the cell phones. That drove me crazy when I would see them on their phones when they were suppose to be doing class work. So from day one I tell them if I see you on your phone and it is not break time, I will write you up.
I have had only one class that can be a handful, but I have only been an instructor a short time, so I'm still learning and this course really will help.
Unfortunately it is hard to keep students engaged when the class is a class like patient relations where they have review questions and scenarios to go over and they have two projects they should be working on. They have plenty to do, it's hard to keep them working. That's what I'm struggling with now.
I find that discipline starts from day one. If an instructor ignores bad behavior from the start, it tends to go downhill from there. If the instructor sets a good tone from the beginning, the student knows that bad behavior will not be tolerated.
Ernest, you bring forward a critical concept. Students today demand you earn their respect and their attention. The days that instructors can "demand" these from students is over and education today requires an entertainment value. The word EduTainment has been created to describe this new twist to the educational landscape. Those instructors that can capture their student audience and engage them within the curriculum will yield the greatest results in the way of achieving learning objectives. I am interested in what others have to say about this topic, agree or disagree is fine as we are simply trying to better understand your thoughts and ideas.
James Jackson
Hi Linda,
My experience has been that discipline is only a problem when the arousal potential of the presentation/subject matter is insufficient to capture the attention of the students. If you consider the term "discipline" to mean behaving in a manner consistent with that associated with effective learning (as opposed to exacting punishment for misdeeds)then there is an implication that the conditions for effective learning must be present. Sans such condition then behaviors emerge that communicate student dissatisfaction with the learning experience. When a teacher demonstrates mastery and relevance the disruptive behavior disappears. Guaranteed.
alma, yes the video can be paused and you can access and playback multiple time.
James Jackson
This course outlined good examples but the speaker was talking very fast and some things I was unable to get so I may not have done well on my Quiz is there a pause button to this program. To comment about the couse it was great information explained because adult students can be a challenge for some instructors in the classroom settings.Some students does try to bully teachers.Doing test review I think this is when the try their personal attack on the teacher .They like to say "That teacher information that she/he gave in lecture was incorrect thats why I fail the test." I would like to know if there is someone out there that can give some examples for a test review in the classroom setting.
Linda, do not take this the wrong way but it may be as simple as students find their cell phones and discussions with their friends more interesting than your lesson plan. This is a harsh reality for any instructor but a situation you need to reflect and consider. If you are doing all you can to ensure your lessons are engaging and exciting to your students then other measures may need to be considered. If you feel your safety is at risk then this situation needs to be discussed within your administration.
James Jackson
