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Cecilia,
Yes - prevention is the best solution to reducing attrition. If you have a make up policy, such policy must be TWC CSC approved.

JP Mehlmann

In our campus,
If a student has more than 10 consecutive days missed
If the sudent misses more than 20 %of the course
If the student does not return from an approved LOA

Of course before the student is dropped, we do take extra measures to prevent this from happening.

Kristina,
As long as your attendance policy follows the TWC policy and, your makeup policy is approved, then you should be in compliance.

JP Mehlmann

If the student has exceeded 205 absences overall for their program. They are allowed to make up hours prior to reaching their termination percentage.

Miguel,
Yes - the TWC CSC policy allows up to 20% absence prior to termination. Any make up policy must also be approved by the TWC.

Thanks,

JP Mehlmann

Our attendance policy mirrors TWC policy. We added a second control which prevents diploma students from making up hours until they reach 15% absent rate. This prevents students from missing and then making up hours and graduating with prefect attendance.

Valentin,

Technically, if the student returns at the beginning of class on the 11th day, you would not have to drop them per the TWC CSC policy; and yes, the count starts again if the student is absent later (unless your policy is stricter than TWC CSC). If the student is late on the 11th day, they have violated the policy by "exceeding" 10 consecutive days of absence and therefore must be terminated. Students who do this or otherwise accumulate high absences also risk being dropped for exceeding 20% of the program hours, again - per the TWC CSC policies. These students should be advised (and the school should document such) of the consequences of repeated absences.

JP Mehlmann

So after the student returns on the 11th day does the count begin again?

A school must terminate a student who accumulates the lesser of the following amounts of abesences more than 10 consective days, more than 25% of a course of 200 clock hours or less, more than 20% of a course in excess of 200 clock hours. Also, they must be terminated if they do not return from an approved LOA.

Gabriel,

You make some good points about the termination of enrollment in relationship to attendance. The rule does state in 807.243(a) that a school shall terminate the enrollment of a sudent who accumulates the lesser of (1) "more" than 10 consecutive school days; (2) "more" than 20% of the total course time hours in a program with course time of more than 200 hours; (5) any number of days if the student fails to return as scheduled from an approved leave of absence.

Gerald Parr

A school must terminate a student if they miss 10 consecutive school days, violate the max time frame of 150% of their total clock hours, or violate their max LOA.

Misty,

Your answer is correct with one correction. Item number 2 should read When a the student misses 25% or more of a course of 41 to 200 clock hours in length.

Gerald Parr

1. When a student misses more than 20% of the program that is in excess of 200 clock hours. 2.When the student misses 25% or more of a course of 200 clock hours. 3. When 10 consecutive days are missed. Those who do not return from an LOA on the date noted as their return date they must also be terminated.

Hi Bobbi,

A school is allowed to have a stricter policy than CSC rules as long as it is published in your attendance policy. The CSC policy states that a student cannot miss more than 10 consecutive days. If they show up on time on day 11, they would be able to remain in school as long as they have not exceeded 20% of the program hours. Make Up work is not a problem, however if you are making up time, you must have the policy approved by CSC before implementing.

Gerald Parr

at my campus, we must terminate if they have missed 10 consecutive days. Our studnets can do make up work. It is my understanding the education dept tries to do make up work with our students as much as they can (and within guidlines). We keep a close eye on attedance and double check it often to ensure accuracy.

Remember the rules state that if they miss "more than" 10 consecutive days or "more than" 20% of the total program hours. You are right, the make up hours must be made before they exceed the 20% rule.

Frank Hammack

They must be terminated if they miss 10 consecutive days or miss 20% of their program. They can make up time but not after they have exceeded the previous requirements.

A student may make up to no more than %5 and may do so before violation of the attendance policy.

Students must be withdrawn if they miss 10 consecutive days, more than 20% of the course, or does not return from LOA. Yes, a student can make up time from being absent up to 5% of the coursework but a request needs to be made before the student is in attendance violation. These requirements should be clearly stated in the school catalog and in the course syllabus.

Is there ever a scenario for an exception to the rule?

The student should receive credit for those courses that they have successfully completed. They may start at the being of the next progress evaluation period.

Frank H.

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