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When a student or Student Instructor asks what the pay scale is, would it be unethical to disclose that information completely? Or would it be alright to give the person an estimate?

I agree that it is not appropriate to ask about salary but it does happen so as others stated it is best just to refer them to the performance fact sheet.

Here at Concorde the salary information we should be giving out is what is on the Student Performance Fact Sheet (CA only) or the Salary Disclosures that has the information broken down by program and area which we get from the bls.gov website.

The information is disclosed and should be presented and even read by the student to eliminate errors or guessing...

You are right on that. PS005 I believe is the form that indicates high, low and median.

Everything must be able to be backed up by fact. If you can not find proven documentation, you shouldn't give out the info.

I always refer students to the bls.gov website.

This question does come up alot I show them the fact sheet that is provided.

I agree with Rick. Being that we work in Texas and are familar with TWC regulations, that is the standard procedure for disclosing pay scales. I must agree with another forum member, that pay alone should never be a factor in pursuing a career.

In any institution, you always want to refer back to a facts wage sheet or performance sheet.

refer to the performance fact sheet

Rick - thanks for sharing information specific to your state since TWC has specific forms and guidelines to follow.

This question often arises during my meetings with prospective student instructors. When it does, I refer them to our student instructor handbook which lists the US Department's published average incomes for vocational educators. As I read this or show them, I make sure they see that it is an average for vocational educators, not just cosmetology/esthetics instructors. I would not share a personal estimate or opinion as to pay scale.

I do not understand the nature of this question. Does this pertain to a student that is interested enrolling in a program and wants the payscale of the occupations that the program trains for? or
Does this pertain to a scenario where a student or instructor are applying for employment. This needs to clarified.

I dont't agree. If I were a student, I would like to know the range of salaries for an entry level position for that course of study in the area.
At the same time, it may be beneficial to know if a student is enrolled solely on the premise of "money making" and not for the passion of any certain profession (i.e. caring for healthcare patients).

Always refer to the performance fact sheet

Give them what is stated on the school performancec fact sheet only.

I thought the rule of thumb was not to ask for pay range when applying for a job. I could be wrong...

Here in Texas we show them the TWC forms that state the average, high, and low range.

Salary will depend on the individuals efforts and advances. Hard work brings about better compensation. I feel that has to be made known.

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