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I don't mean profiling the students.We will have no control over the incoming students, or the many personalities we are about to encounter. I meant profiling the instructors before hiring them, so we know more of the personality of the instructor, and how they would handle a difficult or challenging scenario before it takes place.

Craig, how does the school ensure all of the students fit within a specific profile?

James Jackson

I think that before the school hires an employee, that he or she should be profiled to make sure it is a proper fit.This can help to insure the school is putting the proper personality in place, and not just looking at the credentials. A win for all, especially the student.

Mary, not sure I totally understand your question but I will make an attempt to provide a response. I will first assume that all members of the faculty are acting within the rules and policies of the institution. I will next assume that some programs have different internal rules and policies that are allowed within the rules and policies of the institution. With these two assumptions my response would be to assist students in understanding such is life. The rules that apply to the owners of a company will be different than their employees. Life is not fair and outside of rules that are protected by governments, states and institutions, we all will experience situations we feel are not fair. I do not think it is fair that a doctor that assists a patient a few times each year should earn more money than an instructor who works with a student weekly but I do not control the salary requirements for such positions. In my own direct experiences I know that employees of one department want the same working conditions or benefits that they see from another department. If they are interested in the benefits, policies, or rules of another program then they really need to consider transferring into that program. Please let me know if I understood your question correctly and I am happy to provide other comments if I am off base from your original question.

James Jackson

Joseph, you are not required to answer questions about other students. It is really a very easy response and you just have to say that only the student involved is able to provide responses to such questions. You are there to answer questions about subject matter not to comment about private matters concerning students in your classroom. I would highly recommend you be very clear to those asking you to comment on such private matters, you cannot comment on such matters.

James Jackson

We have school rules for the hole campus for the students but some program instructors have different rules which other program students see which in turn want that to apply to thier program too. How can I handle that situation?

I often have students wanting to know how the the erroring students is being desciplined. I try to be general with response but they are constantly asking for directed answers. How should I handle this withour violating privacy and still satisfy the questioning student.

Elizabeth, treating all students equally is a very important factor. Each instructor however will enforce the rules a bit differently. The more the faculty communicate as a team the more consistency that can be applied to all classrooms and all students. If each member of the faculty operate as an independent unit then consistency will be difficult to achieve.

James Jackson

Its really important that the schools emphysis is on fair but equal discipline. If one teacher follows the rules and others do not it creates chaos. Clear and consise rules that are layed out for the entire school must be emplimented by all.

Angela, if discipline is not emphasized at home what actions can institutions take to make students more responsible for their own learning?

James Jackson

I beleive a lot of students get away with a lot of things in school now. They need to grow up and be more responsible.

James, I have seen this happen many times where the number and the profit margins oversee the policy. In my past experience the reputation of the school and the quality of the student was tarnished. And future grads suffered. What I have done is teach respect and professionalism and that there are rules to be followed at all times. I teach the importance of what a employer would expect. We do not always like the rules however we still need to follow them. Your right there is not an easy answer to this topic, but I have learned to always maintain professionalism.

I strongly agree with you both. Strict dress code and enforcement is a must. It shows leadership and pride of our campus. It teaches our students to become professional on every aspect from being knowledgable in their chosen profession but to also look the part as well. Strict enforcement sets the tone for success!

the desire for discipline is the backgrund of charctor our school is strict, redard the dress code ,so not allow any student to attend the classroom without the dress code and apply also on face ring and other accessray, so if do it for the 1st time give him written assignment and tell him or her next time send to home.

Our school is strict I would say in regards to professional dress. Both in the classroom and in the clinical area. If a student shows up with wrinkled scrubs they are sent home. School is an on-going interview for when they graduate. I try to drive this home with our students.

What do you do when the school officials are more interested in graduating the students .vs. dealing with disciplinary problems that instructors bring to their attention? An example is: a group of students who do not like the length of time they are given to complete an assignment, who go to the officials and say they didn't have enough time due to personal problems. The remainder of the students have completed the assignment on time. The instructor is then called into the office and told to extend the time.

This is one of the most informative courses I have taken of this nature. I will highly recommend that ALL new faculty/Instructors complete this prior to being in the classroom. The only problem is that when administration doesn't support decisions at the department level, things get pushed under the rug. When this happens repeditively, Instructors begin to slack in there policy enforcement, which leads to dis-order.

David, do you experience any other discipline issues outside of tattoos and rings?

James Jackson

Bernie, I understand your point but there is another way to of thinking here. Not everyone has an issue being passed by someone doing 70 in a 55 zone as their focus is getting home safe versus worrying why others are speeding. For new instructors a best practice to consider is to discuss the course policies the first day of class. Also discuss proper disciplinary actions that are supported by students and then implement those actions when infractions take place. Remind students of the prior discussions and you are simply implementing their own directions to maintain a workable classroom environment.

James Jackson

i am very happy with our policy on rings and tattoos etc.we don't allow them they must be out of site if there offences

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