Unfortunatley, statements that like that are exactly what much of these modules were speaking of in compliance in regards to your perception of "other schools."  Although its a complicated profession, enrollment is a major part of all institutions and colleges.  The focus should undoubtedly be the well-being the prospective student.  With that said moments of hearing stories about other institutions could be a rapport building moment about the importance of making an educational decision and not implying or agreeing with anything negative about other institutions.  Consequently, hearing such informations should highlight characteristics inherent in the prospective student and not competing institutions.  And unfortunately, 6 months is hardly enough time to imply you gathered enough information about the admissions process to shed light on other institutions.  This post simply contradicts many things taught in these modules.  Best of luck to you.

Your use of 9-11 and the thousands of lives that were lost as a comparison is far-reaching and, in my opinion, insensitive. The unscrupulous schools you are referring to dig their own graves. Word gets around and it's tough to perpetuate when that word is negative.

By the same token, I don't believe everything I hear. I've had prospective students come into to my office and badmouth competitor schools. In many cases, it's nothing more than sour grapes because that student couldn't cut it at that school because of attendance issues or whatever.   

 

Mary is on it!! I love some of the new regs that are coming out july 1st.  trying to crack down on "Pell Hoppers", limits on funding for students will make hopefully make the prospecting students better students once enrolled. at least thats the hope!

I have been in the admissions areana for about 9 years now and I first I use to feel the same way you did. Yes there are schools out there that are shady and do practice deceiftul ways.  Most of those however, if the student were to check them out, are not fully accredited and do not have a govern board that comes over watches over their practices.

It is up to the student to do the homework to find out all they can about their school.  Review reports on the statistical of the graduation to hiring ratio. etc.

I have found the hard way that the student who is crying the loudest of all has usually forgotten to mention that they have been to prison, tried many different colleges and also mis-used their own federal funds in trying to get the most they can so they have extra monies on hand to by whatever they would like to with their federal funds monies.

A lot of the students now come to the realization that they are thousands of dollars in debt and do not have many credit hours to show for it.  The federal government has just passed laws where the standards of progress are counted equally over all colleges.  If they have attempted XX amount of coursework and only have XX amount completed, then they may well below the standards of progress and ineligble to receive title IV loans.

As our coursework taught us, they are responsible for knowing all that is posted in a catalog just as you are.  Being in the admissions advisor's postition, you may not know what is going on behind the scences to see if this student can pass a background check, where they have used all their funds and have to pay cash, etc etc.

When finding out they can't be admitted, they will blame it on a lot of other colleges, but ususally never on theirselves.  Most of my complaining student who try to re-enter always blame it on the professors or not being told some project was due and they missed that part. 

I take the time to review the classes the student last took (It is only a tab away on our system) I can see how many classes they with drew from, how many times they were absent in a class, I also can look at the instructior's name and can tell if he were a brand new instructor or not (I've been here for 33 years).

The goverment are doing good and cracking down on the shady schools.  I have a listing 4 pages long of diploma mill schools that we can not accept as a valid high school diploma.

The students begging for more and more of their loan monies for personal items and the loan officers allowing them to get that much money is what is hurting the student, the country and the citizens because we pick up the tabs on the bad loans.  If the students do not have a good GPA and Standards of Progress, then they should only be given the minimum amount of monies.  This would stop a lot of uncapable students from getting all the monies they need.

The new federal regs on Standard of Progress, GPA and requirements to receive Title IV loans will nip this students in the bud.  Once they have max out their funds and can not bring up their GPA, they will have to pay cash at any school they apply for. Federal funds will be denied to them until they meet the current criteria.

Most of the students coming to admissions from other colleges do not tell admissions the truth.

Are you in communication with your financial aid department?  Are you looking at the application and see how many colleges they have enrolled in?  Are you looking at the transcripts when they do come back? (We get a copy of our prospective student's transcripts).