At our location, we have not seen anything relating to that. Once a student comes in and you determine their values and what is important to them, the money should be irrelevant to a degree. The numbers are based off statistical information. I always tell students that Career Services is an excellent tool for them to utilize, it is not the end all be all. They have to have the drive and the want to be successful.
I have not noticed any specific changes in prospective student behavior in relation to choosing some programs over others as a result of disclosing placement rates.
I feel it definetely has an effect on placeemnt rates and that in turn has an effect on enrollment. Our location is lucky to have high %'s in almost all of our programs, but still for the few that are not the highest you can see the hesitation and questioning (especially because of the cost of tuition etc)
I have. The best form of success is word of mouth. I a very proud of our placement rates for our school. I take the graduation and placement very seriously, in the end it is a reflection of me and my school
Barbara,
If a student doesn't not take their final exam, they cannot be considered a graduate since they have not completed the program.
Kimberly Stein
i really haven't seen any program "flocking". We have always had a high interest from students in the nursing program.
Absolutely, they wnt to know that their money and time.. has a happy ending.
My hope when I am done teaching the course, that they received all the value they put into it. We can't promised them anything, but what is important
that they understand they have to make an attempt to find a job. We can tell them who is hiring, how many have placed, but when it comes down to it, the understand that nothing is handed to them. Except
a good honest profile, knowledgable instructors, and to know that our school has done everything we could so they are ready to step into any job with great confidence
We are a "clock" program. Some of our students, for whatever reason, don't always come back to take their final and we have a great placement rate. How to you acount for that? What about students that haved moved?
I haven't noticed any changes in student behavior based on discussing graduation rate and placement rates. However, prospective students do seem reassured that we offer this information.
i agree, i really feel this is a very helpful tool for a potential student to receive pertinent information with regards to the program they are selecting
Our career services dept is a large part of that as well, especially when they have specific questions about the retention & placement numbers.
We really haven't seen a change based on the disclosure. However, I will say more & more students are asking about this up front & wanting to know. I have also found that alot of students expect it to be 90-100% & that is not always the case.
I feel that discussing graduation and placement rates generates a discussion on a greater topic: traditional colleges versus career colleges. Many of our students want to complete a degree and begin working as soon as possible. They are more career-focused (end result) than they are college focus (process oriented).
Our school has always seen more popularity with the programs that have higher placement rates. I think this is partly because they are the more in demand fields like medical and culinary. I know the placement team will do averages on salaries because we don't want to give false hope to someone when on the rare occasion a student receives a much higher compensation than the standard. We did just start a new medical program in 2012 and are nearing the end of the accreditation process. This is causing a influx of students coming in now that we're almost there.
Students have definitely shown a greater interest in our programs with higher placement rates. These, of course, are a reflection of the job market in our area.
Our school revised most of our programs about two years ago, and it is still too soon to have information for graduates of the revised programs. We cannot give out the information for our old programs because that would potentially be misleading- the old programs are similar to the new ones, but they are not equal. When I discuss all this with students, I rarely see a change in their behavior.
The regulations for disclosing program graduation and placement rates keeps the School and Representatives "honest" and should give confidence to the enrollee. Also I find that the demand for workers in a certain occupation has a strong influence on the enrollee. If when searching for a job, they keep seeing the same occupation listed, they tend to want that job
security.
I have only been with this institution for less than a year and have not noticed what you describe. This is what I have always done and the students accept it as such. Having said that, I also refer students with specific questions concerning a career path's potential employment/job outcome to the Onetonline.org for state specific data gathered by U.S.Department of Labor.
I have noticed many students flock to the BMM program. They are eager to involved themselves withthis program because of the cross training. As far as I know, I have not noticed any modifications to this program.
Having been in proprietary education for 29 years, I have seen the good, bad and ugly here. I have seen misleading information given out by admissions teams based on false reporting of placement percentages by employees working in the Careeer Placement office. Almost all for profit schools apply pressure to Directors and Placement offices to increase numbers.
