Having been in proprietary education for 29 years, I have seen the good, bad and ugly here. I have seen misleading information given out by admissions teams based on false reporting of placement percentages by employees working in the Careeer Placement office. Almost all for profit schools apply pressure to Directors and Placement offices to increase numbers.
Kathy,
Please be aware that if you have graduated a class, you must immediately begin providing that graduation and placement information. You do not have to wait until you have three years of data.
Kimberly Stein
I am looking forward to giving graduation and placement rates when we are allowed to. Being a new program under three years old, we do not have the data to give out yet. Given another 2 years, we will see this change.
I have not noticed any "flocking" per say, but I definitely think that with disclosing this information it helps the admissions reps to know which programs are more marketable in our area and allows for students to know what programs have more success.
No, I believe students want certain programs because of a passion not placement or graduation rates. I do not believe a student would start school with the thought of failing.
I have not noticed any changes in prospective behavior. I think some fields are popular because of peoples interest and potential job growth as well as estimated salary figures. I believe that institions do make modifications in order to improve though.
I agree that graduation and placement rates are important. It is also important for the representative to give the correct information to the perspective students when explaining the process to them in the interview.
Our school's reputation in some of our specific programs and the success of our graduates has certainly assisted in an increase in enrollment for specific programs.
Recently we have a big interest in our Dental Assistant program. The placement and graduation rates have increased as well. I think alot of it has to do with the time and effort that the director and the instructor put in with everyone of our students, especially when it comes to placing them into externship.
I feel that in regard to some of our placement and graduation rates that it is wrong information that we are showing them. In some cases the numbers are actually better than what is on our sheets and it's sometimes difficult to make the student see that.
Due to the type of college where I am employed, this has not seemed to make a difference in our enrollment. We do see an increase in our real estate courses due to the upswing in the market.
With the economy being what it is, graduation and placement rates are a major concern for today's students. Prospective students often ask about the specific placement rates of their programs in the cities in which they live. Our college has made Career Services Advisors available to prospective students as a result of the regulations and to ensure that concerns about employment after graduation are addressed prior to enrollment.
I 've only had a few prospective students question the graduation and placement rates. I like talking to these students because you know how serious they are about school and they willbe proactive about signing up.
As far as flocking to programs, I feel like one of our programs is the most popular due to the face that everyone knows about its job growth. With our demographic and where they live, that field is growing and future students want to be apart of that. They usually base this with the reseach they have done on their own and not our placement and graduation dates.
I always refer people to our course catalog where all the graduation and placement rates can be found.
I also have a small school with only one program. The school was opened in 2012. I had no data until recently. I have successfully passed 100% and also have a 100% pass rate for the State board test.
The new students are very excited to know the pass rate.
As far as placement, most will be independent contractors.
I agree the best advertisement is word of mouth.
Students have started to show more thought and concern when choosing a program. Some students now make inquires and choose their program based on this information. I have also enrolled students that dropped from programs at other schools due to poor placement rates. These students are very concerned about placement and current employment trends in the new degree program and career path. We have made modifications as well to our practices when enrolling students in programs that aren't as successful at placement by giving students realistic expectations and helping them use the degrees they want in creative ways to make sure they are as successful as possible when they eventually graduate and enter the job market. We have eve incorporated a workshop, “The hidden job market,†to assist students in career paths that have lower placement rates.
I believe students are more impressed with the graduation and placement rates and helps them to know they made the right decision and appreciate knowing there is some further assistance past graduation
For the most part, I haven't seen any flocking to any other program based on placement rates. We have several new degree programs and their grad and placement rate is zero as well. I think it comes down to what the students have found in their research as to what career field will be best for them.
i havent seen any difference really except for when people come in for nursing to medical assisting they always want to go to that website to see the difference in pay and what type of jobs can be had with both programs.
I notice that more students are noticing placement & graduation rates. They are even asking about them before I have a chance to go over it. I notice more students basing their decision on job outlook.
